Talk:Lupita

It should work now. -Emy

Engaged to a succubus?

The mind reels.

--Elizabetha 16:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Can't say I'm much fond of the link to that other wiki. Would rather you put the necessary information on this wiki as well.

-Your loving Admin

Rosaceae I'll just ad my comment like this since i have no idea how to do it any other way. Lupita isn't a warlock as any other warlock, Her demon comes out of her own will and isn't summoned. Lupita is a warlock with a heart and soul and much love. She's more of a mage with a demon ally then a warlock, a unique class as it where. I know this because I used to hang around her a lot.

Lupita: November 6th 2008

Thank you for your support, Rosa. I miss RPing with you on the alliance side.

About warlocks, especially Lupita: Maybe I am too much into Star Trek, but what I love about that universe is, that it is promoting ideas that require an open mind when it comes to story telling.

A quality that not many RPers share, especially not those lore fanatics who only know black and white in their little stereotyped minds.

Many great stories have been written about inter-racial relationships, about stereotypes being broken, about supposedly bad people being good and vice versa.

As Rosa wrote, Lupita is not any warlock. She might be one of the 1 in a  exception of people who use fel magic without getting corrupted, because they (for whatever reason) developed an immunity to its corruptible properties.

I don't care about people who believe that, "...if it never happened before, it can never happen at all...". Those narrow minded beings would be better off, wasting their time by discussing the "chicken and the egg" problem.

Fixed comments to be identifiable by who made them.

As for Lupita's warlock/mage-with-demon-lover -status, I'm on record regarding the lore's stand on demons. Arguing it with someone who has made up their mind to take another approach is IMO pointless. As long as Lupita's player respects other players by keeping her RP away from them if they ask her to, I don't see a real problem. Obviously I'll extend the same courtesy. There's no reason we can't all have the fun we like, in our own separate circles.

Enjoy your RP, and I do mean that sincerely.

-Auburn

the lore's stand
Interesting topic, Auburn.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Uncorrupted_warlock

http://www.amazon.com/Horde-Players-Guide-World-Warcraft/dp/1588467724/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1226317512&sr=11-1

This book, surely, must refer to some other World of Warcraft universe in which uncorrupted warlocks do exist, as opposed to the computer online game Warcraft universe, in which they don't.

If you take the lore's stand, you will know that the lore did not have a place for alien races like the Draenei prior to their introduction. As far as I recall the things I read on the internet, even guns were frowned upon at one point in time. Helicopters were debated as much as the new "bikes" are being in the focus of debate.

Whenever this type of discussion pops up, I get reminded of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05uMHagQ5Ms where a rather peaceful (at that time of the movie) person (intelligent, open minded, well behaved, educated) walks into the "... ground..." of somebody else (typically with reversed properties in regards to the other person positive traits).

I believe that people, who got their heads stuck deep in the sands of "traditional lore" should realize, that the world is only limited by their own perspective.

But you are definitely right about any further discussion being pointless. It's close to impossible to debate "wider concepts of being" with people who lack the far sight to see anything beyond their tiny world of self made rules.

It's always easy to exclude, banish, kill people for thoughts different from your own. The warlock genocide in Stormwind, not too long ago, was a typical example of RP with bad taste, partially even RPed bad.

The seemingly eternal fight about the lore sometimes is taking religious proportions like the eternal struggle with the catholic church and the protestants. They all believe in the same basic things.

You (pl.) can dig yourselves into the safety of "the lore as you see it". The lore will change again and again, simply because you are not the ones writing the lore, it's Blizzard, and one of these days, you, not keeping up with the changes, will be the ones left behind, living their dreams of yesterday instead of building a brighter future.

Until then, again agreeing with you, it might be best to stay out of each others RP.

"I am a Warlock. Hath not a Warlock eyes? Hath not a Warlock hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, heal'd by the same means, warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer, as any other is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, do we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that."

http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/am-jew-hath-jew-eyes

Lupita 12:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)