Talk:House Withamhall

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- Eliza.

--80.77.138.48 01:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, thought of adding the twins to the family tree, Rich? ;)

--Elizabetha 14:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

How do you do the bloodline thing? It'd be awesome to have on the House Stonewatch page... --EordanKaikeyiKalthir 06:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Photoshop. :P

--Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 09:12, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Wasn't it spelled "Fleur de Lys"? Just curious.

Looks very nice. =)

--Elizabetha 08:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

"Lis" and "Lys" are both valid spellings. :P

We'll have to see if we can make one for Liz. I'm not quite sure what she would get... Traditionaly it's like this:

- Daughters get to use their father's coat, conventionally depicted in the shape of a lozenge. - When they marry she places her coat of arms beside their husband's (called "impaling"). That is, the shield is divided in to two halves, one being the husband's coat of arms (left side) and the other hers (right side). - When the daughter is a heraldic heiress (she has no brothers, and is the eldest sister), she gets to do it differently. Rather than impaling it, she places a smaller version of her own coat of arms in the middle of her husband's. The heir of such a marriage can choose to maintain just his father's coat, or to have it quartered with his mothers. This new quartered coat of arms would continue on to his own children. - The younger brothers get to have a modified version of their father's coat of arms. - Heirs have their father's coat of arms, but until the father dies there is a sort of banner at the top of the coat of arms that marks then as the heir aparent.

Uh... that's pretty much it, superficially.

So, Elizabetha would techincally be able to do what Heraldic heiresses do. But since her father has no coat of arms, its more confusing... My guess is that she would be granted a coat of arms of her own (probably aluding to her role as a Paladin), which she would then place in the middle of Richeron's coat of arms. The children would then get...uh... I guess its up to Rich or Liz if they want the kids to have Rich's coat or the result of quartering the two coat of arms. I think Rich would defend the later. All the stuff with the animals, the crown and the motto..uh... my book says that is was for "proiminent men", so my guess is that Liz's would remain quite plain.

This system would give feminists a massive stroke, of course, but that's what you get from something so archaic!

--Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 14:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S - My book's from the fifties and is made for young people (and it's based largely on English/Scottish tradition). So, it's neither politically correct nor exhaustive. There may be massive exceptions that one could apply that I don't know about.

--Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 15:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, she'd most likely get her own, and have it placed within Rich's own, and, yes, it'd make most sense it being a lozenge.

You could make some suggestions and send them to me, if you like. I know I'd love that. =)

As for the kids, I think I can safely say that its look will be up to both Rich and Liz. From what their marriage has been thus far, they seldomly do things on their own accord, save for when it's been necessary to keep the twins safe. ;)

Oh, and do keep it archaic, please. Makes more sense. And, yes, Paladin-ish since her father had none.

--Elizabetha 12:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Wonderful new family tree you've made, Rich!

--Elizabetha 11:14, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Why, thank you!

--Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 14:35, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that I did quirk a brow at James being added, even if he's only present in that Legacy story, which per se was fictional/speculative.

--Elizabetha 15:33, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, right. I forgot that I had added him, long before I put this on the wiki. I'll remove him.

--Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 19:18, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

Now that you've removed the Secrets of the Withamhall family, where're all said "secrets"? Can't find them anywhere. --Elizabetha 10:01, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

It was a silly page. :P Largely irrelevant information.

--Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 14:54, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Balderdash. It was amusing and nostalgic! Especially the one-eyed cat that Berdrin gave Liz, who in turn gave it to Richy, y'know. --Elizabetha 14:55, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

There. I expanded it on to the actual page. :P Add anything you think might be missing. --Admin Richeron [ T | C ] 00:04, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

I nearly died of laughter! Good one! Especially the land bit and its ants, and that very used bedknob! xD

--Elizabetha 00:42, September 5, 2010 (UTC)